Can I travel to Italy from the Netherlands after overstaying the Schengen Visa? Updated answer to question Hello Jatinder, I just received an email today from a guy who overstayed his Schengen visa by 15 days and was deported to his country of origin and fined 160 Euro as he tried to travel from Germany [...]
Can I travel to Italy from the Netherlands after overstaying the Schengen Visa?
Updated answer to question
Hello Jatinder,
I just received an email today from a guy who overstayed his Schengen visa by 15 days and was deported to his country of origin and fined 160 Euro as he tried to travel from Germany to Italy. It was the German authorities who applied the punishment.
A few years ago when the Schengen visa was new it was a joke — travelers would often overstay it by leaps and bounds and not receive any punishment. They seem to have their policies down now and overstayers are being fined and deported, so I would probably recommend leaving the Schengen Zone as soon as possible.
Thanks,
Wade
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1st answer to question
Hello Jatinder,
There have been incidences where visa overstayers have been fined large amounts of money per day of their overstay. There is nothing consistent about immigration procedures — one day something is fine, the next day they put you in jail or slap you with a huge fine. It all depends on the winds and the mood of the particular immigration official.
So in this very wishy washy circumstance I cannot provide you with much advice. Nothing could happen, or you could be banned from Europe, fined, or tossed in jail. I have heard of all of the above incidences occurring.
As you are already overstayed in the Schengen zone, I would say that you may as well enjoy your stay and go to Italy — as there is no telling if you will be allowed back or not. But be aware that you could receive a “per-day” fine when trying to exit the region.
In short, I cannot say what will happen with any sense of certainty. You should be alright if you don’t exit the region from Germany or Switzerland, but there is no telling. Immigration policies are nothing if not inconsistent.
Sorry that I cannot be of more help.
Let me know how everything works out.
Walk Slow,
Wade
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Original question about traveling in Europe after overstayed Schengen Visa —
Hi,
some background. I am Canadian, my husband is American, and we live in Vancouver, Canada.
My husband is a prof at UBC and this is his sabbatical year.
We entered Sweden on September 1, 2009. We stayed in Sweden for 2 months and then came to Amsterdam. We entered The Netherlands on November 2, 2009. We are leaving Europe on December 27 for Singapore, and other destinations in Asia.
Before we came to Europe we went to the embassy of both Sweden and The Netherlands in Vancouver, and were told that we did NOT need any visa. My husband is not working here, he is not getting paid, but is affiliated with universities here that provide us housing etc…
So, last week, we were at the airport in Amsterdam hoping to spend the weekend in London, to visit family and friends. At Schipol we were told that we have now overstayed the 3 month allotment under the Shengen agreement. In the end, they were very nice, and said that we could stay but immigration would send a report and there might be a sanction against us. Likely, we will not be allowed to enter the Shengen area again for some time, how long this is, is not known at this time. The officials at Schipol are aware that we are leaving Amsterdam later this month. If we had gone to London, we would not have been allowed to return to Amsterdam. (obviously a big problem since all of our stuff for a 8 month trip is here, and my husband has obligations to the university here).
Ok, the question–Do you think it is ok for us to travel within the Shengen area? We are hoping to go to Venice next week to celebrate our anniversary. Our experience so far has been that no one has looked at our passports when traveling. We had a rail pass for Scandinavia and now have another one we are using for the rest of Europe (10 days in 2 months). The only time our passport was looked at while on a train was when we went to Norway from Sweden. How likely is it that anyone else will look at our passport, and note when we entered?
Your advice and suggestions will be most appreciated.
Thank you
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December 21, 2009, 11:07 am
Hi Wade
I am Australian on a 90 tourist visa living temporarily in France. I have over stayed my visa by about 35 days. I am planning on travelling between Paris CDG airport to Barcelona then back to Paris.
Am I really running the risk they will check my stamp date in?
running, tripping and wishing I could stop speed walking.
Michelle
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December 26, 2009, 2:44 pm
Hi,
Can you please help me out? I have currently been in Greece for about a year and a half. I want to fly to Ireland for about a week on the 31st and return in January. Since Ireland is not in the Schengen I know I will be stamped… will i be ok to get back into Greece? Will I have a problem getting into Ireland? Please help!!
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February 6, 2010, 11:12 am
Hi, I’m a Malaysian Chinese, but before i say anything let me just brief my story, I met my bf thru net and we’re madly in love for one year over the net, I promised that I will visit him in france one day, so I did so, but the thing is i dun know the seriousness for overtstayers as it is my first time traveling abroad and that is for him, I dun have any bad intentions wanting to be illegal here, and never have any intentions wanting to come europe as well before i met him, so please have mercy on me as i’ve gotten myself in a big trouble without realizing it before i decided to apply a student visa in Sorbonne a uni in Paris and got busted, as I was told that I have overstayed for too long and I am suppose to have done my student visa back in Malaysia not here. I didnt know all this at the beginning and I really need your help, obviously i do not need a visa to travel around europe, but my days are limited to 90 days as usual. Well, I liberally broke the rule, and I’ve overstayed for 8 months in Paris for my bf, he’s a french chinese, and we’re going back to malaysia for holiday, and i will legally apply a student visa to study french in France, will i have problem applying for the visa? do i need to turn to my embassy for help? Please give me advices as I am very desperate now, I don’t want to be separate from my bf as we love each other very much to be apart, all I want is not to be apart from him. will they have mercy on me because I am still below 20 or 21? I am really desperate for advices. I didnt know such big consequences will occur as it is my first time traveling abroad. As I only get one paper stamped from my entire passport holder. Will they have mercy on me if i tell them the truth? Can I avoid getting banned from coming back to europe? and will they have mercy on me regarding to fines since i am not employed yet? and it’s my first time traveling abroad? Please gather some information on this and let me know. And I may be stupid, but who is not for love? I thought that i can settle everything regarding to the student visa thing in France so i waited so long for a new semester to begin and now I’m totally stuck in the middle of nowhere. Please help me!!
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February 7, 2010, 4:59 am
Thanks again for the advice, I really appreciate it, but I read the article about how the overstayers lose their passport on purpose to avoid the penalties, or to erase the evidence, if this works in the US, it seems that they do not have records regarding to the arrivals / departures of the americans, but is it the same for the non-americans?
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February 24, 2010, 9:27 pm
Hello,
I am a Canadian and will be travelling to Italy on a Working Holiday Visa that is valid for 6 months. As a Canadian am I allowed to travel other EU coutnries for an additional 90 days after the WHVisa has expired? -
September 9, 2010, 9:08 am
i have recently overstayed my tourist visa by about 15 days, i entered holland through schiphol and i was thinking i could leave through belgium where apparently i will probably not get stamped, but i have a new digital passport, is this going to cause any complications? thank you very much
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September 10, 2010, 2:39 am
someone told me that with the digital passport they can check and see when you left the country. so if i were to try to leave through Brussels this would still cause me to get fined/ or not allowed to come back to the country?? thank you
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September 20, 2010, 5:08 pm
Hello Guys,
I am student in Sweden and my university allowed me to study either in University or by online.
My Study visa was getting expired while I was in Finland, So I decided to applied for extension as the process time was just 15 days on Swedish Migration website site for online applicant. Now its 3 months and i am stucked in Finland and still waiting for my extension The reason is because I asked Swedish Migration to send my visa at Helsinki Embassy secondly I am taking online lectures.1 – But now, I wanted to visit my home country. Will this be a good idea to leave from Helsinki airport ? Or should I go to Stockholm by cruise for departure to my home country ?
2 – As I have no direct flight from Sweden and I am getting cheapest airline from Paris, Can I go through Paris airport while my visa is expired and applied for extension ? If Yes , Can I also visit Paris or stayed one night at Paris ?
3 – If any one had experienced visit Paris Airport with in schagen states, are they check passport ? As per my experience with in scahgen flight Copenhagen to Riga and Helsinki they never checked passport at entry point.
Thanks
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November 25, 2010, 9:46 am
I’ve been in Italy for a little over two months. I plan to travel to Spain only a few days after my 90 day period is up. Do you think there will be a problem for me to fly into Spain after an overstay? I undertstand that I might have trouble leaving Spain to return to my country of origin (Canada), but is traveling within the schengen area really all that difficult after an overstay?
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December 2, 2010, 3:58 am
hey, i overstayed my Schengen Visa year by 56 days – i left france and have been out of the Schegen area for seven months. Will i be eligible to re-enter the zone with a flight out booked within the 90 day period?
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December 15, 2010, 12:16 am
Why the worries? As long as you don’t intend to overstay there should not be a problem. If you’re planning to stay longer than 3 months you should apply for a long stay visa in the target country’s embassy back home, although I suspect you can depart only from that particular country because they will need to stamp out your visa and verify your exit.
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December 26, 2010, 6:26 pm
Moat countries are strict on visa control. The do not always deport, however, we must always be mindful when traveling that it is our duty to ensure our visas are valid.
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December 30, 2010, 6:21 pm
What’s the impression you get regarding checking in at hotels? I have overstayed my visa in Italy by a couple months and have so far been fine staying quietly in an apartment in my boyfriend’s (status: legal) name. However, we’re planning a couple trips within Europe in the coming months, and it just occurred to me that they often at least check passports. If the point is to register guests with local police, am I risking deportation? The countries in question are Italy and Austria.
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January 10, 2011, 1:01 am
I apologise if I sound prudish, but why would anyone travelling overstay their visas. Gee it is simple don’t overstay your visa. I can excuse people who may living in an area for an extended period, but not whilst traveling. It is not worth the penalty or the hassle.
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January 21, 2011, 12:38 pm
Hi Wade, and all,
I’ve searched the internet heavily for this answer, and I cant find an exact response. Hoping I can get some guidance before booking further travel!
I’m a Canada who overstayed his 90 days. I stayed 104 and got a fine leaving Hungary, and entering Croatia. I’m staying in Croatia for another 2 weeks, and then plan to fly to London and stay there for a month. Then, I plan to depart London to head back home to Toronto Canada on March 1st.
My questions are:
– Will I have a problem entering UK as a Canadian citizen? I’ve read on here they don’t look kindly on overstayers, and since my departure is roughly a month later, will that be a problem? should i bring proof departure to show them as well?
– My flight from the UK to Canada only has stop overs in Amsterdam or Paris. Will I have trouble leaving the UK (Heathrow) via Schengen Passport officials? Will I have trouble when landing in Amsterdam? I imagine i’ll need to chage gates and I have no idea how their layout is.Ive even called Dutch border agency and they have said “their should be no problem” but havent said it with any certainty, so i’m really unsure about everything. Should I try to go to the UK (always been a part of my travel plans), should i just cut my losses and fly direct back to Canada from London?
Any insight would be incredibly appreciated!
Jeremiah
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January 27, 2011, 2:56 pm
Hello Jeremiah — I’m hoping that you could help all us fellow travelers out by enlightening us about this fine you received traveling from Hungary to Croatia? Were you traveling by plane or train? Which side fined you? Please reply to help out the community here. Thanks. Bryan.
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January 27, 2011, 2:56 pm
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March 18, 2011, 4:43 pm
Hi, I had stayed in Italy 4 1/2 months. While changing planes in zurich I was stopped at passport control, and then told that I had to pay a 500 euro fine. I told them that I didn’t have any money, so they had me fill out a paper and told me that it was possible that I would not be allowed into Europe for 1-3 years. That was in October 2010.
This time I entered into Italy through France, the guy only looked at my face on the passport. March 2011. Wear lipstick!! -
March 24, 2011, 6:31 am
I currently have a récipissé de demande de carte de séjour that is valid until the 22/06/2011 for France. I plan on moving to Germany to live with my fiancé. Do I have to leave France on the 22nd and stay outside the Schengen area for 3 months before coming back on a tourist visa? Do I risk not being able to get a visa in Germany if I overstay a French visa?
Thanks!
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March 31, 2011, 9:56 am
Hi, my husband spend his ssabbatical in spain and i get slovenia visa type C for visit him and my visa is valid for 90 days. how can i extend my schengen visa more than 90 days in Spain beacuse i can´t come back to my country and apply again after 3 monthes.
thanks
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April 1, 2011, 7:51 am
Need urgent advise. Please no smart comments, but if anyone can help it would be much appreciated.
My girlfriend is from Ukraine and still married to a German. She has a visum to stay in any eu country for only for 3 monts at a time. We have been living in Spain for the last few months and just the other day she was stopped on a bus, they checked her visa and they put her in a cell for two days. She had 48 hours to wait for a police decision on what they would do with her. It now looks as it she will be deported back to Ukraine because of this.
Is there any way around it and does the fact that she has lived and studied and worked in Germany now for 10 years and is still married to a German make any difference?
Whats the most realistic thing that would happen if she stayed here for another 2 monts and we then went to Ukraine together?
A fine? A ban from EU? We can handle all of that. But would they throw her in prison?
Anyone that can help right now .. thank you 🙂
Best regards,
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July 2, 2011, 1:40 pm
Hi,
I am an American and have a situation with my Spanish student visa. I studied abroad in Spain for a semester (starting in January) and had a 6 month student visa that I obtained in NY. I loved it here and decided to extend my stay. At first it was just supposed to be for the summer but then I realized I really wanted to stay and applied to do another semester here. I got into university here, and attempted to extend my student visa but after many trials and tribulations found out that my 6 month class D student visa is not extendable. It expired yesterday, on July 1.
Here are my questions…
1) I know that you can be in the Schengen zone for a 90 day period without a visa. Am I covered by that for the next 90 days, or does it not apply to me because I was already here for 6 months on a student visa?
2) If I do stay for school next semester, what is the worst that can happen? I have been talking to a lot of people about this and most say that Spain is very lax about it and there is nothing to worry about, just don’t travel through England or Switzerland. Does anyone have any other advice?
3) Is there any way to extend my student visa or apply for a new one without going back to NY? The problem is that I have a job here and cannot leave for the amount of time it would take to process getting a whole new visa.Any comments or advice that anyone has on my situation would be amazing!! In the end, I really just don’t want to leave Barcelona and the fact that I have proof of enrollment for school in the fall has given me some hope that it will work out.
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July 11, 2011, 2:55 pm
I am an Indian passport holder residing in New York. I have been living in US for 11 years and finally expecting my green-card by end of this year. So I don’t want to do anything to jeopardize my status in the US.
I am going to be visiting Europe for 2 weeks from July 16th to July 31st. Since my initial plan was only for a week, I had applied for a Visa accordingly, but after my application I changed my itinerary to 2 weeks. I assumed this wasn’t a problem as the Schengan Visa is usually issued for 90 days.
However when my passport was returned my Visa was issued only for 13 days, till July 29th and my return ticket if for July 31st. I am flying into Vienna, and returning from Brussels, via Reykjavik. Will there be a problem if I overstay my Visa for 2 days. Can the airport authorities detain me in Brussels or Reykjavik, or charge a fine.
Also if my flight is from Brussels, via Reykjavik, where will my passport be stamped at Brussels or Reykjavik.
Please let me know my options. A prompt response would be appreciated.
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January 30, 2012, 12:40 pm
Hello everybody,
I hope somebody can help us with some info.
I am a Dutchman currently living in Colombia with my Colombian girlfriend.
Our plans are to go to Holland for 3 months and I already bought the tickets. The problem is that I miscalculated and she will have an overstay of 17 hours. Could this be a problem? Are they really going to be difficult about those 17 hours?
We further have a Colombian registered partnership (same privileges as marriage) and we want to make it official in Holland. If she gets penalized for the overstay, will she still have any problems with applying for a new Visa in the future?Many thanks for the help, I really need it because changing the tickets is more than €2000,- per ticket.
Daniël
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July 11, 2012, 4:01 pm
Hei all, thank you for all the comments. Well, i did voluntary work in Finland for a year then i forgot to rebook my ticket after 11 months i called the airline when i had remained with 3 weeks to leave Finland. Unfortunetly the airline told me it was too late to get my ticket renewed being that it was a long period i had to keep on renewing which i did not do. I had to call home in Africa so that they can buy me a ticke to return home in Africa but they did not bother. My visa expired on 7th. Aug. 2009 and i left Finland in Dec. 16th. 2009. My worry is i’d like to travel to Sweden in Dec. 2012 but am scared that they might deny me a visa because i overstayed in Finland. What should i do? Thank you.
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July 18, 2012, 2:10 pm
HI there, I was wondering if you could help out. I am a South African, but my Mother is a British Citizen, living in Barcelona Spain. Last Year I had to go over to Spain and Help her as her Mental health deteriorated after a particularly nasty Divorce. I landed up overstaying the 90 day visa by about three months. I did not work, I made an attempt to extend the visa, but my Spanish in minimal, and everything there is all Spanish – very little English. When I left the official said that did I understand that I cannot come back to Spain, i said ok, no problem, I dont like the place much anyway 🙂
To cut a long story hot, it has now been a year and i find myself wanting to take up studies in Norway. Would this Spanish Bann reflect on their systems ?
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August 16, 2012, 2:09 am
hi,my name is mario and i have a question to u…i come in germany for tourist visa in invitation.but my time period is finish already 2months.so i want to go back in middle east.what is the procedure to get out without any problem..
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October 10, 2012, 11:00 am
hello, please help me out, i was deported from Germany in 2008, and now i want visit my friend in Italy, and now my problem is i dont know if i will be allow to enter the schengen Zone by having a shengen visa.
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December 13, 2012, 3:04 pm
I was wondering what the chances are of getting stopped by bus leaving the Schengan Zone and heading to the UK and having our passports checked. A friend and I are waiting for our visa that is in the process but it is not complete yet but we would like to go home for the holidays. We are over our 90 day tourist visa but are in process for the long term visa. Do you think we would be okay to take a bus to London and fly from London to the States? Too risky?
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December 14, 2012, 1:39 am
hi wade, i was deported from france, 3 years ago, and they told me i can come back to schengen zone, but i like to apply for student visa to spain, and my passport was expier when i deported, can come to spain for student visa?
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