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On BBC World News Today – 11/23/2018

Talking about China in Pakistan.

PRAGUE, Czech Republic- At 12:30 today I was cooking gnocchi, preparing lunch for my two daughters and I. A notification came in through my phone — a Twitter message from a BBC World News producer asking if I’d be available to go on air at 14:00 to talk about the attack on the Chinese embassy in Karachi. I go on this show every once in a while to talk about China related issues. I know the drill: race to set up cameras, lights, computer equipment, do a pre-interview with the producer, do video and sound checks with the technicians, quickly brief myself on the topic, do the interview, break down all the gear and re-charge batteries. When it’s over and done it will take up a good part of a work shift — two hours or so.

I look at my kids. They are peacefully eating their skyr and waiting for their gnocchi. I look over the apartment and take inventory of what I’d need to move around and rearrange. I go over what I need to complete today for my other work.

Am I going to do it? Am I going to disrupt my kids’ lunch, pack them in the bedroom, and tell them not to make a peep until I return and some unspecified time in the future? I’m I going to blow up my next session of work for this?

Of course I am …

But the main reason reason is the fact that I enjoy it. I’m not sure how much these appearances really benefit my career. I don’t have a university or employer who’s going to oogle over me and give me promotions or raises for elevating the profiles of their establishments. Hardly nobody is going to see me on TV, go and find my book, and buy it. The only Twitter reactions that I really receive are from morons saying things like, “Dude, you totally use Just for Men in your beard! Hahaha!”

This is just fun for me. A writer going on TV to talk about what they write about is the equivalent of a band playing a gig. You spend so much time sitting all alone in a room and even when you are around people nobody that you know in real life really wants to hear you talk about what you do. So when those opportunities come up I start feeling ridiculously sentimental: these people want to hear what I have to say, that’s something special — appreciate it.

Wade Shepard

I did the interview. I played it conservatively. I could have went off on the first question and started talking about how this attack are probably actually going to make China and Pakistani relations even stronger because it raised the profile of their common enemy and will more likely than not justify the increased presence of security forces in the region in question and give those forces more of a carte blanc to use more forceful measures to subdue resistance. But I held back a little.

I have to stop doing that.

The interview was broadcast live so I didn’t get a chance to actually see it. I used to have a friend in the film division of BBC who I would send me the footage whenever I went on their programs, but he took another job a while back, so I no longer have any way to get it now. I keep all of these interviews, etc, together in a collection for future use or for posterity.

Interview set up This is my current interview set up. The Blackmagic cinema camera feeds into a video capture card which allows me to run the signal through Skype on my laptop. I opted to use a shotgun mic over a lav as the cord wasn’t long enough. The audio came out well but, ideally, I would use a lav with a longer cord or a wireless lav for something like this. I use the natural light coming in through a window and an led light as my key. The light in the back is my back light. Positioned this way they form a “light sandwich” and create some contrast.

I experiment with different lighting set ups all the time. I originally set these lights up with a different framing, so the key light was a little more in front of my and the back light was a little more behind, but the tech guy at BBC wanted me centered so it altered the angle of how the lights hit my face and head, but there was no time to change them and it still came out alright.

Better than using the laptop camera and mic …

Making a documentary with BBC in Kazakhstan

Update, 2018/11/24:

The producer was kind enough to send over the video to me. Watch it below.

Filed under: In Other Media

About the Author:

Wade Shepard is the founder and editor of Vagabond Journey. He has been traveling the world since 1999, through 88 countries. He is the author of the book, Ghost Cities of China, and contributes to The Guardian, Forbes, Bloomberg, The Diplomat, the South China Morning Post, and other publications. has written 3413 posts on Vagabond Journey. Contact the author.

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  • Rob November 24, 2018, 3:50 am

    That is a quick look at an interesting life!

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    • Wade Shepard November 24, 2018, 10:20 am

      Thank you!

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  • Scott November 24, 2018, 4:36 pm

    Congratulations! Keep the content coming. Amazing you can haul all that gear with you. Your on BBC World News! I think that’s going to benefit your career. Might now seem much to you. But damn that’s huge to your viewers! You’ve come along way since eating road kill and reporting on that. BBC World News! Think about it.

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    • Wade Shepard November 25, 2018, 1:05 pm

      Man, you remember that roadkill story!!! Haha. That was funny. Yes, I once cooked roadkill on ABC News … oh man.

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  • Trevor November 24, 2018, 5:10 pm

    been looking for this, unsuccessfully, on BBC. hope it gets linked …..

    almost totally unrelated.. got an ebook….Lynsey Addario…. “it’s what i do”. i met a photographer in Mozambique who knew/met this woman. and after seeing Addario on Breakfast TV this week, i downloaded the kindle book. absolutely facinating.. … possibly the best book i’ve ever read…

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  • Trevor November 24, 2018, 6:19 pm

    Just seen the vid……. Wade on the BBC congrats man!!! from a blogger to BBC….awesome!

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    • Wade Shepard November 25, 2018, 12:32 pm

      Thank you!

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